Sunday, 11 January 2015

[Wikimedia-l] Could someone please tell me why I have been subscribed to this list?

I really would like to know why I have been subscribed to a list that
I know nothing of, there has been NO communication whatsoever about
its creation and the community's input.

I hardly think You've been added to Wikimedia-l". is an adequ\te
manner to introduce a list. Or am I to infer that it is somehow
relaled to a previous email by Svetlana, saying " I maintain that I
would love to have a formal universal feedback ..."

Would Toby care to explain?

Regards,

Rui


2015-01-09 11:12 GMT+02:00 Toby Dollmann <toby.dollmann@gmail.com>:
> Recall https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2014-November/075480.html
>
> On Mon Nov 24 21:19:46 2014, svetlana <svetlana@fastmail.com.au> wrote
> I maintain that I would love to have a formal universal feedback
> channel for Chapters work. It has to be drama-free, but transparent,
> and not moderated.
>
> Feedback is occasionally not negative, and may contain thorough project ideas.
>
> --
> svetlana
>
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 18:03, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> As there is this constant call for more paper work for chapters, it has to
>> be understood that this is exactly what kills the productivity of chapters.
>> There are always more people with their opinion why this that or the other
>> is amiss. They all have their arguments why they think they are right and
>> consequently contribute to the noise level that is already way too high.
>>
>> If anything we should look for ways of appreciating the effect of chapters
>> that does not make them beholden to every John Dick AND Harry and at the
>> same time gives them equal space to move as effectively as the Wikimedia
>> Foundation itself.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 23 November 2014 at 23:02, svetlana <svetlana at fastmail.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > To clarify: I would like to see a more strong mechanism for review of
>> > Chapters work. This includes thorough feedback channels about how Chapters
>> > communicate, how they spend their funding. Including means to dissolve a
>> > Chapter if a large chunk of people believes it is not working well (such
>> > as, providing inadequate support to the Wikimedia movement).
>> >
>> > This feedback channel is probably not here, but I feel this list could be
>> > an appropriate place to discuss how the above could be implemented.
>> >
>> > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 08:28, svetlana wrote:
>> > > I disagree, the question raised is relevant to the Wikimedia movement as
>> > a whole.
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 24 Nov 2014, at 02:37, Austin Hair wrote:
>> > > > Fae,
>> > > >
>> > > > Please do not drag this list into whatever trouble you've found
>> > > > yourself in on another. Wikimedia-l is neither a court of appeals for
>> > > > Wikimedia-related lists nor a bullhorn for your personal grievances.
>> > > >
>> > > > Austin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Fæ <faewik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > Hi Darcy,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I am concerned at what appears to be deliberate suppression of
>> > > > > questions raising governance related issues from the wikimedia UK
>> > > > > email list. The email below is an example. The list was always
>> > > > > intended to be independent of the UK chapter, though one of the
>> > > > > moderators is one of your employees.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Could you please confirm that neither you, nor your employees, are
>> > > > > manipulating this public list to your political advantage.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > Fae
>> > > > >
>
> On 1/9/15, Toby Dollmann <toby.dollmann@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Long Answer:
>>
>> Your email ID was identified, from your internet behavior and websites
>> you visit, as a lesbian or associated with Gay rights .
>>
>> It was then added to a database. The data base was compiled to a mailing
>> list.
>>
>> A mailing list is a collection of names and addresses used by an
>> individual or an organization to send material to multiple recipients.
>> The term is often extended to include the people subscribed to such a
>> list, so the group of subscribers is referred to as "the mailing
>> list", or simply "the list".
>>
>> You can educate yourself at Wikipedia, one of the LGBT friendly
>> educational sites you frequent.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mailing_list This article does not have
>> any reliable sources since 2007.
>>
>> Short Answer:
>> F*** Off
>>
>> Toby
>>
>> On 1/9/15, svetlana <svetlana@fastmail.com.au> wrote:
>>> How did this message reach me?
>>>
>>> --
>>> svetlana
>>>
>>
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