Re: [Wikimedia-l] Purpose of this list?

Dear Phoebe at WMF

1) It is certainly news to me that "Wikimedia" is a Wordmark /
Trademark of the Wikimedia foundation. Do you have any evidence of
this ?

2) Since Wikimedia is being used lawfully and without impersonation by
so many persons who are not part of Wikimedia foundation the question
of imposing your rules on my mailing list does not arise.

3) After we sent a private notice about child pornography on Wikimedia
Commons and other WMF websites to Lila Tretikov, somebody added my
email to many Wikimedia server mailing lists and I have been receiving
all your hordes of crazy emails which are carefully preserved. Clearly
this has been done by somebody with access to Lila Tretikov's emails.

4) Thus, I am using your unwanted emails to create my own mailing list
to communicate my thoughts on racism, sexism, child pornography etc.
to users of Wikimedia foundation. It is possible that say 50 out of
500 persons may not want to listen to me and they can easily
unsubscribe using Google Groups standard procedure included at footer
of each email.

Toby

On 1/10/15, phoebe ayers <phoebe.ayers@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Toby,
>
> It is fine to start a new list or group and then advertise it on existing
> channels, for those who may be interested in the topic to join. It is not
> OK to add people to a new group without asking them first. And it is not OK
> to be rude about other people who participate in Wikimedia. If your aim is
> to criticise a particular policy or talk about a particular issue, then
> please do so with civility and without namecalling.
>
> I would also note that "Wikimedia-l", as the longtime name of the
> discussion mailing list that is hosted on Wikimedia's servers, is a
> particularly misleading name (and one that uses a trademark of the
> Wikimedia foundation). I'm sure this was intentional on your part, but a
> word of advice: if you'd like to start a new list and actually have it
> thrive, don't use a name that is already firmly in use and has many
> connotations (both good and bad) among editors!
>
> I'll be unsubscribing myself.
>
> Thank you,
> Phoebe
>
>
> --
> Phoebe Ayers
> Wikimedia Foundation | UC Davis Libraries
> http://phoebeayers.info
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Toby Dollmann <toby.dollmann@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Greg
>>
>> 1) The LGBT list is not a transparent list
>> 2) This mailing list is for Wikipedia Editors, ie the individuals who
>> contribute to Wikipedia, and not for the parasite rogues who are
>> suckling at WMF's massive mammaries.
>>
>> Toby
>>
>> On 1/10/15, Gregory Varnum <gregory.varnum@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this list.
>> >
>> > The invitation seems misleading. An LGBT project would presumably NOT
>> > be
>> > unable to apply if it was time sensitive or if minimal effort was made
>> > to
>> > focus on the gender gap issue. I say this as an advisor to Wikimedia
>> LGBT+
>> > and a nonprofit grant writer who has worked within these types of
>> > situations many times.
>> >
>> > If this is to discus LGBT issues, why not use the existing Wikimedia
>> LGBT+
>> > list?
>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/lgbt
>> >
>> > -greg aka varnent
>> >
>> > PS. I am NOT speaking in any official capacities I may hold.
>>
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